I'd suggest if the debate continues we use this thread, quoting the others if you want to counter anything from them. Just want to point out I made the assertion I didn't want this argument to become "circular" so I'd withdraw an leave others to it but fuck it. You want to use that as an oppurtunity to try an tell me whats "untrue" without fear of response I may as well jump back onto the carousel.

If theres anyway to amalgonate these religous "debates" (who am I kidding?) into the one thread I think would enable us to nail down the goalposts and get abit more coherency from both sides.


An where your concerned Book, Cast them in cement just to be extra safe....

An for the record I don't believe I know the truth any more than anyone else. Its an arrogance only the truly indoctrined (Not a compliment btw) and short sighted are capable of.

As socrates said many years before your preference of deity was imagined "The wise know that they know nothing". Whatever our own conclusions on the big questions of life are the overwehlming probability is going to be we are all wrong........Just some more so than others.

I'd suggest if the debate continues we use this thread, quoting the
others if you want to counter anything from them. Just want to point out
I made the assertion I didn't want this argument to become "circular"
so I'd withdraw an leave others to it but fuck it. You want to use that
as an oppurtunity to try an tell me whats "untrue" without fear of
response I may as well jump back onto the carousel.

If theres
anyway to amalgonate these religous "debates" (who am I kidding?) into
the one thread I think would enable us to nail down the goalposts and
get abit more coherency from both sides.


An where your concerned Book, Cast them in cement just to be extra safe....

An
for the record I don't believe I know the truth any more than anyone
else. Its an arrogance only the truly indoctrined (Not a compliment btw)
and short sighted are capable of.

As socrates said many years
before your preference of deity was imagined "The wise know that they
know nothing". Whatever our own conclusions on the big questions of life
are the overwehlming probability is going to be we are all
wrong........Just some more so than others.

I took all of the stuff from each of our threads that I felt needed responding to and quoted them all here, hopefully that will help things stay more organized now.




As I said, this isn't what religion is about. This is a textbook strawman argument. You're condemning something I don't believe. Ok, fine. Try to actually argue against my position next time, instead of one you're making up for me.



Exactly.



This is funny, coming from the guy who hasn't actually interacted with any of my arguments in these threads.



Well, faith is actually a part of any knowledge claim, as even your atheist philosophers will tell you (knowledge being justified true belief). So yes, I do believe that everyone exercises faith in the things they claim to know. That shouldn't be a big surprise to you.

I comprehend perfectly fine your 'absence of belief' I'm not even sure what you're trying to prove with that.



I don't believe in any other gods because the Triune God of scripture is the only God who can account for knowledge, morality, ethics and any number of other things. The proof that the Christian God exists is that without him you can't prove anything.

Is that why you also reject my God? Because you believe he exists?

If you'd actually like to have a discussion about this, why don't we pick a certain topic or thesis sentence to debate, it helps keep things on target better than just taking random shots at each other as we've been doing.